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Lillie May

Lillie May

Good Dog
CrazyK9 said:
Lmao! Wow, well, sorry to start a shitstorm for you! I mean I started out very vague because I didnt want to be the one to bring this to the publics attention (hence why I was going to PM you about it) but apparently people have already been talking so I figured Id at least chime in on what I know to be true.

He has no grounds to sue PBC either. I mean, isnt there a disclaimer about not being responsible for content posted by users? Lol Still, if you want to delete this thread, go ahead. I got the info that I wanted, the fact that he treated Osy differently than Boogieman seems to paint a picture of him knowing there was something up with him before this incident. It doesnt sound like this was a freak accident...
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I think there is a disclaimer stating that. But it is a public forum where all things related to dogs, APBT specifically, but all types of breeds are discussed. We also discuss current events or debate topics.

Point being, even if this wasn't a public event, the EMT's have to report all dog bites to the E.R. staff. They then have to file a report to either A.C. and/or the police. Those reports are public records, so anyone who chooses to access them can. He's very disillusioned if he thinks people aren't going to talk about it.

"Yes your Honor, I am an assmarmot for talking about a poor woman who was mauled by a dog that should've been PTS. It's called an opinion, which is my right to express under the Freedom of Speech amendment. I feel both empathy and sympathy for her. How rude of me for saying that on the Internet."

Pffft, no one has said anyone's full name. His ignorance is showing, IMO.
 
GoingPostal

GoingPostal

Good Dog
Really puts a great name on the breed when a massively titled "UKC Superdog" mauls someone. <Removed> will have a heyday with this one I'm sure. This dude's a real pos.
 
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CarolineP

CarolineP

Little Dog
I have a picture of the police report, is that allowed to be uploaded?

I message him a lot on Facebook and do a lot of art for him of his dogs, he sent it to me, if anyone wants to see it.
 
CrazyK9

CrazyK9

Good Dog
CarolineP said:
I have a picture of the police report, is that allowed to be uploaded?

I message him a lot on Facebook and do a lot of art for him of his dogs, he sent it to me, if anyone wants to see it.
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If you have the report number, anyone can look it up. That would save any suspicion of the image being altered or fabricated and you dealing with any possible consequences of posting it publicly. Not sure that there would be any but I don't know for sure.
 
CarolineP

CarolineP

Little Dog
Clay told me to share it if I want, I'll post that number!

At the top right it says "OCA(?) 2015-14954"
i think that's what you meant?
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
CarolineP said:
I have a picture of the police report, is that allowed to be uploaded?

I message him a lot on Facebook and do a lot of art for him of his dogs, he sent it to me, if anyone wants to see it.
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As far as I'm aware, Clay has only posted page 3 of that report, and in it, the officer states that he "observed a small piece of flesh missing from the pinky finger side of (victim's) left hand."

I've seen the photos of the victim's injuries. If Clay really wants to try to downplay this as much as he seems to be, I'll post the goddamn things, but I want to know either what level of shit that LEO has seen where that injury qualifies as a "small piece of flesh," or who the fuck the LEO is friends with. :no2:
 
CarolineP

CarolineP

Little Dog
SevenSins said:
As far as I'm aware, Clay has only posted page 3 of that report, and in it, the officer states that he "observed a small piece of flesh missing from the pinky finger side of (victim's) left hand."

I've seen the photos of the victim's injuries. If Clay really wants to try to downplay this as much as he seems to be, I'll post the goddamn things, but I want to know either what level of shit that LEO has seen where that injury qualifies as a "small piece of flesh," or who the fuck the LEO is friends with. :no2:
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I thought that it seemed the reported injury was just too minor for everyone to be freaking out, had to be worse? I wouldn't mind seeing it.
 
BCdogs

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
Regardless of the extent of the injuries, the dog still attacked an innocent bystander. That's inexcusable, and the fact that he's trying to downplay the incident is disgusting.
 
CarolineP

CarolineP

Little Dog
BCdogs said:
Regardless of the extent of the injuries, the dog still attacked an innocent bystander. That's inexcusable, and the fact that he's trying to downplay the incident is disgusting.
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Was Clay near the dog or did Osy like, run across the field or wherever they were and bite this girl? I'm confused on HOW Osy got to this girl? Or where Clay was distance wise?
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
CarolineP said:
Was Clay near the dog or did Osy like, run across the field or wherever they were and bite
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Who cares if she was standing right next to the dog or half way across the county, or whether or not the owner was even present? IF the dog was a purebred APBT as its owner claims it to be (it is NOT), and IF the dog was well-bred (it is NOT), neither of those things should matter.
 
BCdogs

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
Yeah, I also don't care where they were, or what the distance was. A stable bull breed dog does not attack someone at ALL.
 
CrazyK9

CrazyK9

Good Dog
I can only speculate as to what kind of distance there was but as an example when they had other dogs out in the field practicing, a few dogs did the scent discrimination exercise within about 10 ft of me. For those unfamiliar with Mondio, it is similar to the retrieve except the handler places an object with his scent in a pile of unscented items and sends the dog out to find and retrieve it. The retrieves, since an item is thrown, were generally not towards people that I saw. So if that were the same case for Osy, it seems like he would have had to go out of his way. In either circumstance, I would guess there was probably more distance from handler and dog than spectator and dog. BUT as others said it doesnt really matter. Theres no reason for a dog to attack a person out there, even the decoy, unless commanded to or because the handler is being threatened.
 
Lillie May

Lillie May

Good Dog
CarolineP said:
I thought that it seemed the reported injury was just too minor for everyone to be freaking out, had to be worse? I wouldn't mind seeing it.
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As everyone else has said it doesn't matter if this was a minor or major bite. I don't care if that poor woman only had a scratch from a tooth. It also doesn't matter if she had been hanging above the dog like a fucking piñata, what part of a well bred APBT should NEVER bite don't you get?

Also, the link you posted doesn't work and where are the first two pages of the report? Why aren't those questions you have about distance and whatever it is you want to know being asked of him on Facebook? I'd like to know just how he came about magically sending the report to you? I don't know of a single person on here, regardless of what kind of dog we have, who wouldn't put their dog down given the same circumstance. Not one! The very fact he didn't speaks volumes as to his character.
 
ETRaven

ETRaven

Little Dog
Lillie May said:
As everyone else has said it doesn't matter if this was a minor or major bite. I don't care if that poor woman only had a scratch from a tooth. It also doesn't matter if she had been hanging above the dog like a fucking piñata, what part of a well bred APBT should NEVER bite don't you get?

Also, the link you posted doesn't work and where are the first two pages of the report? Why aren't those questions you have about distance and whatever it is you want to know being asked of him on Facebook? I'd like to know just how he came about magically sending the report to you? I don't know of a single person on here, regardless of what kind of dog we have, who wouldn't put their dog down given the same circumstance. Not one! The very fact he didn't speaks volumes as to his character.
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I think he doesn't want to do it bc Osy is heavily titled, not to mention, he'd have to admit to breeding and handling HA dogs.

However, sometimes it's better to eat a little crow, say you messed up and do the right thing. (code: euth Osy), maybe, just maybe, he'd gain a little respect back.
 
GoingPostal

GoingPostal

Good Dog
ETRaven said:
I think he doesn't want to do it bc Osy is heavily titled, not to mention, he'd have to admit to breeding and handling HA dogs.

However, sometimes it's better to eat a little crow, say you messed up and do the right thing. (code: euth Osy), maybe, just maybe, he'd gain a little respect back.
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If this guy was a stand up person the dog would be dead, no excuses. That pic floating around that's supposed to be the bite is pretty horrific. Was Osy ever bred?
 
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